721 wiggle sticks too

Started by jamiexq

jamiexq Lv 1

721 wiggle all is sticking - you can wiggle at CI ZERO and the unfrozen part does not move - it should crumple

Using devprev Win7

beta_helix Staff Lv 1

Can you share your solution with us where this happens?

When I reset the puzzle (using Windows) and wiggle all with CI=0 the helix crumbles onto itself:

jamiexq Lv 1

After you mutate at all, wiggle at zero does not move it
I do have "Enable backbone constraints" checked as well

beta_helix Staff Lv 1

Thanks jamiexq.
Have you noticed this problem on any non-design puzzles?

I know 720 is an issue, what about the Flu Design Puzzle 718?

Have you ever run into this with Prediction Puzzle 719?

jamiexq Lv 1

Hi Beta, No this is not at all an issue on the flu puzzle 718 - that puzzle is fine
Nor is it a problem on 719 or any but these last 2 that I have seen

I am assuming it has to do with the filters

Timo van der Laan Lv 1

I have shared one with the scientists where running wiggle at CI zero just moves a tiny bit.
(Wiggle at CI 0 almost does nothing)

beta_helix Staff Lv 1

I am posting Round 2 for this puzzle WITHOUT the filters (so you will be able to let us know if that makes the difference).

You can help us with this by trying out this devprev puzzle and telling us if you run into the same issues as you had with this one:
http://fold.it/portal/node/992823#comment-23390

Thank you for your help and patience with this nasty bug!

jflat06 Staff Lv 1

As far as I can tell, it quickly gains some points, and then immediately after starts to crumple and have terrible score. It's definitely odd, as usually knocking out the Van der Waals score term completely messes everything up.

However, it is completely possible that the energy gradient of the CI-less score function matches that of the normal score function. This alignment of the energy landscapes wouldn't last long, which is why it crumples immediately after.