Scoring anomaly Hydrogen Bond Network 2

Started by Bletchley Park

actiasluna Lv 1

I'm also experiencing scoring anomalies (lost most of a 4500 pt. bonus on a solution over 15,400 and have not been able to recover it to anything more than 12,200 with a declining bonus every time I try to work it, despite recreating the sequence AA for AA and shaking the daylights out of it). Quickly reading through this thread I will try closing foldit and downloading the latest build and using recent best after the recipe if I experience the problem again.

I agree this one is not ready for prime time and as a relatively new player it is very disheartening to see points evaporate for what seems no good reason.

actiasluna Lv 1

I'm also experiencing scoring anomalies (lost most of a 4500 pt. bonus on a solution over 15,400 and have not been able to recover it to anything more than 12,200 with a declining bonus every time I try to work it, despite recreating the sequence AA for AA and shaking the daylights out of it). Quickly reading through this thread I will try closing foldit and downloading the latest build and using recent best after the recipe if I experience the problem again.

I agree this one is not ready for prime time and as a relatively new player it is very disheartening to see points evaporate for what seems no good reason.

O Seki To Lv 1

I have the same problem as everybody here and after going through all comments, still no solution. Bruno's suggestion using the recent best does not work for me. Recent best doesn't load the recent best, just some random low score. Interestingly the autosaved credited- or very best displays the score right, but when I am loading any of that, always loosing a couple 100 points. Very hard to improve the score since every time I stop, have to start again from at least a 100 points lower score…
Evolving a high scoring solution even harder, if not impossible as Bruno mentioned it earlier

Seems to me there is some bad scoring algorithm associated with this puzzle. (I'm using the latest client).
Is it possible to have a fix during this run (2 days left) or the puzzle will be re-posted after correction?

brgreening Lv 1

Bruno, could you mention the name of the file and where it can be downloaded from that produces hashes on pc's?

thx in advance.

jflat06 Staff Lv 1

If anyone can find a way to reliably reproduce this, that would be very helpful.

I am able to see the shared solutions that load in lower than their score indicates. What I need is to be able to see the state of the program/scoring/hydrogen bonds when it records the high score. This should show why the scoring anomaly is taking place, and I should be able to fix it. I'm not sure this is possible, since this seems to be intermittently reproducible.

jflat06 Staff Lv 1

Unfortunately, probably not. You would have to have some way to detect when the problem is happening, and break only on that. You would never find it just breaking every time the score changes, since that happens many times per second, and this bug is highly sporadic. That's part of why we need a reproducible case so badly.

Detecting when the problem is happening is tricky, since that requires knowledge of why the problem is happening to begin with. All we know is that certain solutions are scored higher initially compared to when they are re-loaded in, and that isn't something that can be tested every time the score changes.

jflat06 Staff Lv 1

If anyone has an example of this happening in another puzzle (I recall some players mentioning this), please share that solution with scientists and mention the puzzle/solution here!