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Hey folks! New Office Hour happening this Friday, July 15th at 10 AM MT (4 PM GMT). It will be led by horowsah. Please feel free to bring questions about reconstruction puzzles, trim tool, and education mode/educational uses.
Hey folks! New Office Hour happening this Friday, July 15th at 10 AM MT (4 PM GMT). It will be led by horowsah. Please feel free to bring questions about reconstruction puzzles, trim tool, and education mode/educational uses.
Please see the links below for some questions
about the Trim and Untrim Tools:
https://fold.it/portal/node/2013141#comment-46429
https://fold.it/portal/node/2013246
Also, could some of the pdb's we are trying to
improve in the Reconstruction Puzzles (see
https://fold.it/portal/node/2013193 for more
details) need that improvement because the
software used in their original ED-fitting did
not include cis peptide bonds? I don't think
Foldit really lends itself to including cis
peptide bonds right now, but maybe it should.
https://fold.it/portal/node/2006311
https://fold.it/portal/node/2006311#comment-46377
https://fold.it/portal/node/995580#comment-24061
says that cis peptide bonds are quite rare
compared to trans ones (the trans:cis ratio is
usually about 1000:1, but near prolines it can
be 3:1). This means that near prolines 75% of
peptide bonds are trans while 25% are cis. 25%
is a pretty big population to ignore. Why not
make it easier for us to consider cis peptide
bonds in Foldit puzzles? It could lead to better
results.
<pre>https://fold.it/portal/node/995580#comment-24061 says:We warn you about cis because, as it turns out, cis
bonds are very rare in the natural proteins that we
have observed (1000 to 1 in favor of trans).
There's a small exception to this in the case of
prolines - when a proline is the top residue in a
peptide bond, the ratio is about 3 to 1 in favor of
trans, and consequently we do not create a warning
about this.
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What does "proline is the top residue in a peptide
bond" mean? Does this mean that of the 2 adjacent
segments in a peptide bond, the lower #'d one is
the bottom residue while the higher #'d one is the
top residue? Are x-pro cis peptide bonds more
common than pro-x ones (here I list the lower #'d
segments first, and x is any amino acid)? Do
certain amino acids in the x positions make cis
peptide bonds more likely?</pre></code>
I made a list of some recent puzzles,
how many segments each one had, and
how many prolines each one had. Then
I divided the # of prolines in each
by 4 to estimate how many cis peptide
bonds each should have:
puzzle #segs #prolines #cis
2167 129 2 0.5
2158 588 34 8.5
2155b 588 34 8.5
2142/3 124 2 0.5
2137 143 5 1.25
2128 69 4 1
2125 95 3 0.75
2120 128 4 1
2116 54 5 1.25
2114 215 11 2.75
2110 80 6 1.5
2108 127 4 1
2100 124 2 0.5
In this chart, most puzzles should
have at least one cis peptide bond.
Also, puzzles like 2167, 2142/3,
and 2100 each have a 50% chance of
having a cis peptide bond while
puzzle 2125 has a 75% chance of
having a cis peptide bond.
The above makes me think that many
of our solutions could be improved
if it was easier for us to include
cis peptide bonds in them.