Evo without gaining points using cut tool

Started by RabidNimravid

RabidNimravid Lv 1

I used the cut tool on an evo puzzle, and "gained" points with the cut (not credited, since the cutpoint is open.) On cutting it, it said the solution was evolved but needed the cutpoint closed. Closed the cutpoint without doing anything and the solution counted as evolved while going exactly back to the score I started with (2 points under what should have been needed.) Maybe the solution should be evolved only when the credited score raises 2 points, not the redlined score?

gitwut Lv 1

Though we chatted about it some, I am still unsure what's wrong with this–unless it somehow goes against the rules or definition of the Evolver condition. Is the Evolver condition defined online anywhere for reference?

If we were to do the same thing under any other condition (solo, already evolved puzzle) the cut could possibly increase the current and/or best score by some amount and then redline the current score. Whether or not the increase can be recouped depends on the subsequent moves, but the current and/or best score could still be increased by the cut alone.

So it is okay to increase the current and/or best score this way except when the Evolver condition has not been met?

brow42 Lv 1

Scores are not supposed to count unless all conditions are met. That's what makes this a bug.

RabidNimravid Lv 1

But chopping a protein into pieces isn't "evolving" it- the point is to improve the protein by a certain amount. You haven't improved it at all. When you open and then instantly close the cutpoints in fact you haven't changed it.

The redline thing is also a problem because now when you use the cut tool to move the protein around in the process of getting a solution, you can sometimes make a "high score" that is outrageously high for evo but not possible to get in nature (cut protein with the pieces magically floating next to each other). It will add 2 points to your redlined high score and make that the evo target. (sorry about the -1, I was trying to hit "reply")

AsDawnBreaks Lv 1

It is still inproed on though, and it is what you do while it is cut, and how you close the cut that makes the difference.

alwen Lv 1

I just had this happen - I was still about 1.5 points away from evo, made a cut and gained 8.6 points over the number necessary for evo. So the client thinks I have evoed, but my score is redlined from the cut.

If all I do is close the cut, the scoreboard shows me as having evolved the protein, but my score has actually dropped, so I am ~1.75 points from the necessary evo score.