I understand that the wiki is being organised in a fashion suitable to very new players.
Based on what they had difficulty finding when we had the last influx of 1000 players per day etc.
You are a long standing, experienced player, what you are looking for, isnt what a new player needs at their finger tips.
The mods and others, who did the vast amount of mentoring and tutoring of the new players got to hear first hand what new players to the game needed and what were the most crucial pieces of information. The wiki is being re-organised to be more suitable for them, in an effort to retain more players by having the wiki resources more user friendly. It isnt completed yet, but it is much much better than it was before.
as for knowing who the admins are, one will leave a message on a persons talk page..so everyone with a wiki account will know who at least one admin is.
So no it isnt about " some anonymous admins of the wiki that have some ideas about how it "should" work,"
The people who were heavily involved with the new players, listened to their needs and are trying to implement them before there is another massive rush of new players.
You are not on the chat much so perhaps that is why you arent aware of that aspect.
I do agree that not having a page of editing and contribution guidelines/rules is an oversight and having such would avoid many wasted hours by all.
I imagine that the priority has been focussed on getting the wiki workable and tailored for any new people
Page "about" : link at the end of the first page in the section helping out
http://foldit.wikia.com/wiki/Foldit_Wiki:About
You can navigate on the part of the wiki on foldit game beginning here
http://foldit.wikia.com/wiki/Category:The_game
Other way to find puzzle results by alphabetcal order in the category "puzzle results"
http://foldit.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Puzzle_Results
So- who ARE the wiki admins ?
Obviously, Marie. Who else?
That's my point.
The first link is buried way at the bottom of the main page, who's going to see it there, or even understand what it is?
I don't see that the second or third links are on the front page anywhere. In fact, without beiong given the specific link, I don't think anyone would ever find those pages. Perhaps that's why helping people takes so much work, you don't make it easy to find to information.
Is the "search" function. Yes, we are all used to the substandard search here on the foldit website, but the search function in the wiki is excellent.
If you want to see if there is anything on the wiki about "Puzzle 402", just type that into the search box - it will take you directly to that page.
A search for "cookbook" will take you to a page where the top articles are 101-Cookbook (showing the line: The Cookbook is the store for Recipes; it is available everywhere except the Tutorial interface. Recipes are a way…) and Intermediate FAQs (showing the line: "How can I move my cookbook from one computer…").
In other words - it's a wiki! Underlying all of the pages and information is a great search function. The organization is secondary, so long as someone types a word or two in the search box…
And volunteer to help.
Then "you" could make it easier, instead of just criticizing.
At least Tristan was trying to do something, instead of just complaining about it.
Yes, and look how he got slapped down for not following the invisible non-existent plan/guide/standards.
If I decided to re-organize the front page to make more sense for new users, how far would that go?
You're just making noise.
As many of you may know i have written over 50 pages for the wiki. Almost every page i have witten has been critisied by someone for some reason. As a wiki worker who has recived way to much negitive feedback i agree with Tristan that a lot of negitive feedback seems to be tied to the power structure of the wiki rather then logic.
I have always had great problums with my disabilities, including aspergers and dislexia, these are a great problum when working with words. It makes it very difficult to write properly, and it is only with help from others that i can express what needs to be said on the wiki, and i thank those who have helped in my struggles to improve the wiki. However i have also received withering critisium from many who "control" the wiki.
I have personaly been banned from some wiki pages, including being banned from the main page for trying to include a single link to a newer better aulternit table of content. Also i was banned for trying to add content to the structure page after being told to do it, the sheet page, the helix page, and others. I have never done anything malisous and never well to the wiki but i have made simple mistakes that i have been berated for. My latest effort has been critisised for being to long and to detailed, Really??? Does the wiki have only a limited number of pixels that can be used? or is it that only one sanctioned view of how to play foldit that is permitted to be on the wiki? I hope not!
So in summery i would like to thank those in charge for all their help in making the wiki a better place with greater knowledge from all to all. And to please try to help advance new player partisapation in the wiki, not to restrict it with blistering critisiums, but to provide help and guidence not censor and deletion to new pages by new players.
I have a lot more to say on the wiki, please let me say it and the wiki well be a better place for all. Wiki Peace please not more worthless wiki wars. thank you all, Kimo
Yes the TOC on the main page is very antiquated and needs a total overhaul. Perhapes someone can help make it better? Not me I was banned for trying to add just one single link to a better "Alt TOC"! Until then try the "main index" page, at least you can find most of the pages on the wiki, in a proper order, without having to use a dubious search window.
Goodbye best of luck to you.
