Hi, I've just started going through the beginning puzzles, and I'm working on Level 2-2, Close the Gap (Backbone Packing). I have what seems to be a valid solution, no collisions and no red dots showing empty space, and my score is 8728 of 8850. However, it is not letting me continue or go to the next puzzle. What am I missing? fyi, I'm using the Linux version.
http://foldit.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorial_Puzzles
That is indeed the first puzzle new players start having trouble with… good luck!
that isn't helpful, I'm trying to find out what's the point? I solved everything I was told to solve, is there some hidden objective? Merely a higher score?
The intro puzzles are really meant for teaching you the tools you need to play in the "real" science puzzles.
As for the issue of "merely" getting a higher score… the fact is that the score function was developed by digitally representing various chemical interactions and fitting the parameters to real-world data to figure out their relative weights. The result is that a higher score generally correlates with a higher probability that the structure is correct. To put it another way, you are actually contributing to scientific research by trying to get as high a score as possible (especially if the puzzle involves a protein whose structure is still unknown).
reset, move the helices paralell and shake.
dont overthink, proteins like to be compact
Wow, it seems like no one is really getting me here. I have closed the gap, I have moved them parallel, I think the program even recognized the solution at one point, as it popped up a message, which I then clicked. I do not know now what the message said, but it did not allow me to progress afterwards (I do think the message was the same as I had gotten on successful completion of earlier scenarios). Why can't anyone answer what exactly the objective is? Is it to remove all conflicts and empty spaces? If so, I've done that. If it is something else (like a particular score), why can't you just tell me that?
and see videos.
Find my intros corner, I made video of passing almost all intros one by one.
but if you clicked on the link I gave you at the start you would have found this video under that exact Tutorial Puzzle:
if you do exactly what is in that video, not only will you see all the text bubbles that you missed, but you'll see exactly what needs to be done to beat the level:
namely: bring the helices close enough so that the sidechains can happily interact.
If you want to learn more about what the general objective is in this game, please read the first 2 sections here:
http://fold.it/portal/info/faq
and if you need even more info:
http://fold.it/portal/node/985960
Lastly, if you are still stuck after all this… please post a screenshot in the Puzzle Chat and someone will help you!
are done.
When you have done exactly what the puzzle is designed to show you, then you will get the required score to move along to the next puzzle.
The objective is to learn the tools of the game and do exactly what each puzzle requires you to do, so you can then unleash your new skills on the science puzzles and compete with other players.
So If you think you have closed the gap and you still cant "pass", then you have not followed the instructions correctly, or done things in the correct process to allow you to learn another too.
Some puzzles require you to attempt them more than once in order for you to "get it" as it is predetermined you do.
Very interesting interchange between mwtalbert and various helpers.
I'd respectfully suggest that the problem is not that there are no bubbles or pointers or helpful videos, but that the many newbies come to the puzzles with no clue as to what a hydrogen bond might be, or why lipotrophics should be buried or . . . The puzzles are among the best examples of what is called "unaided discovery learning," in which the learner bumbles about until he or she accidentally solves the puzzle but may not know why. The method first came to popularity in the 1960s, was trashed repeatedly, and re-appears from time to time. It can work and be useful, but people need better preparation (aiding) and the tutorials need to be stronger and better arranged.
Be glad to help.