Finding it difficult to move or bend structures

Started by Rubiksmath2

Rubiksmath2 Lv 1

Hi, I am a new-ish user and have learned a lot however the one huge thing bugging me right now is my complete inability to really make anything move "freely" or re-create specific parts of structures/and or make my own exactly as I want it, even in the sandbox levels with full controls.

I have way too many issues to go into in detail, so I'll just go with the main one with my specific example. I am sorry if this comes up all the time I don't mean to ask about already solved problems.

Anyway, I am doing the very top puzzle in the science section of online gameplay, mainly using it to understand how things work. The puzzle already gives you a solution with score 11753 right off the bat. This solution has two large helices and one small helix. I see how the two large helices are connected by 3 loop segments and then it spirals back down the other side, all well and good. But trying to recreate this with the third helix after removing whatever weirdness is going on with those links in the pre-generated solution is proving anything but easy. Even just trying to remove unneeded blocks to get to 3 loop blocks joining the 2nd helix to the small helix doesn't seem doable, eventually the deletions of the unneeded segments fail. I imagine this has something to do with distance but I can't make it not fail no matter what I try. I have noted that sometimes if the gap is too far it will move one of the helices over to make up the gap, but it always moves the big helix but I want it to move the small one. I thought freezing the big helix would do the trick but the deletion fails.

Okay, so I cant really get it to have 3 segments, no big deal, right? Apparently for me, no. If I try and move the third helix into the correct position it doesn't really work, it usually deforms the second large one, or it deforms the small helix I am trying to move by stretching out the helix structure in some places since the last helix segment of the third helix gets like weirdly rotated somehow. I have tried freezing their structures and using the wiggle tool, but it just sits there and does nothing. Finally, if I make workarounds for these which are terrible and are just really to see if I could do it even if I got past these two roadblocks, it ends up with red on the last helix block or two and all along the loop segments connecting the helices. I cant get rid of the red, and besides, It's not even in anywhere near the correct arrangement I want it in (I want it to turn around and start spiraling back up alongside the 2nd helix identical to how the 2nd helix turns around after the first).

Actually, there is one more thing, and that is I notice a couple of the loop/helix segments (if I change the last couple from a loop to a helix) are spiraling in the opposite direction relative to the helix itself, but I see no way to rotate them or move them independently at all, it is as if they are locked in that structure.

I am likely missing something but could somebody please help, maybe even get a video of doing what I was asking, and also like is there even a way to rotate those individual segments? there surely must be since the pre-generated solution switches direction a couple times in that weirdness it gives you in the connection between the 2nd helix and the small helix. Thanks.

jeff101 Lv 1

Hi Rubiksmath2, 

I sent you some e-mails about this via 
the Foldit site. To read them, please 
login to the Foldit site and go to 
https://fold.it/portal/messages
I hope what I have written there helps.

Good Luck, and Happy Folding!
Jeff

HuubR Lv 1

Although I know that jeff101's answers and explanations are always helpful and elaborate, I would like to add two pieces of advice here:<ul><li>If you have not done so yet, complete all of the Intro Puzzles!
For some reason, these are now called the "Campaign", and they can be found in the top left corner of the starting screen after you log in to the game.

Have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSCkJ0w4Dk: a video by one of our best players, Susume. This video got me started (and hooked!) on Foldit :-) </ul>