Tools for ED puzzles - summary

Started by Rav3n_pl

alwen Lv 1

  1. anchor view port to any point, not only segment.

YES. I would find this very useful. I have a hard time focusing on the ED cloud unless I am moving it and rotating it.

Once I start putting the protein into the cloud, the center of the point-of-view is usually not centered anywhere near the center of the ED cloud, and I can't turn the cloud easily to resolve the shapes into three dimensions in my head.

  1. Pin/lock in space tool. When we are sure about some fragment we want to lock it totally. any wiggle, banding or whatever should not move locked part.

This is another I would find very useful. It is annoying to have aligned a part with the cloud so the aas sit in it perfectly, work on another section, and find the first part has moved.

  1. force free/no CI mode/move frozen/locked parts. When I pull one part it should move exactly in place I pull. when I want pull helice it shpudl stay intact only loops should bend. It should not jump aside or bounce back when hit another part. When I pull sheet it suppose to stay flat and straight, not bending in strange ways

This one also! If I've built a helix and all the aas fit nicely in the cloud, I don't want the end to go straggling off and distorting because I'm trying to pull sheets into the cloud. I want the protein to stay where I put it, in the shape I put it.

mimi Lv 1

Can I add my bit to this suggestion.
Would it be possible to change the "Align Protein to Density" button
so that usage cycles the protein through a number of possible alignments.
Currently it seems that whenever it is used it moves it into a lower scoring
and not obviously better position - why would you ever use it?

steveB Lv 1

Absolutely 100% agree with your first point alwen. The center of rotation on ED puzzles needs to be the center of the ED cloud, and not the center of the protein. At the same time, the depth cuing in the programme which gives the white foggy effect for depth should also be centered on the ED cloud for the reasons that you point out - it's whole purpose is to help visualise in 3D.

truestone Lv 1

My feeling exactly. In earlier ED puzzles, you could pull the protein out of the cloud and operate on it as a normal puzzle. In the latest ED puzzles, with the ED cloud being tiled but only one tile drawn, you're always under the influence of an additional force of nature that gradually pulls things in peculiar shapes. I now understand that the cloud really isn't an additional force of nature operating on the protein, it's just a measurement, and an imprecise one as well. So this imprecise cloud that operates as a force field and promotes unnatural solutions. I think we should be able to turn off the force field. Turning it on to get the "cloud score" would be a condition to credit the score.