Make loading a guide from a evo always be an evo .

Started by Timo van der Laan

Bruno Kestemont Lv 1

I agree with spmm that Community rules AND a kind of social control is the only sustainable tool we have to avoid cheating.

Knowing that, as BitSpawn wrote, it's technically possible and relatively "easy" to "exact" copy a shared solution (there is a case in history – just mentioning that a player was banned for this), probably using various means including scripts. But yes, it is technically possible and I suppose it will ever be so.

There are 2 potential "victims" of such type of cheating:
-the soloists inside group, sharing with their group;
-the open groups, subject to clandestine passengers coming in, loading a solution and going out
(note that a group cheating on other groups is impossible since any share is marked with it's group origin)

I must admit that, in the past, I ever had the impression "our" very top solution in a small open group was copied the latest day by another player. It made me paranoiac, but I cured.

Being in an open group and sharing a lot, I'm still a typical potential "victim" of this.

My feeling today, as a potential victim, is that I'm always free to share or not to share.

Or to join a closed group with only players I trust.

In a paranoiac phase, I could retain sharing anything (including recipes and tips). In an enthusiast phase, I may share everything I created myself.

Conclusion after this philosophic thinkings: I now fully agree with spmm :)

Bruno Kestemont Lv 1

May be this topic could be closed. I think it's all implemented now.

It's now amazing that a soloist can evolve himself (or is it a bug?). O Seki To is currently soloist AND evo on the same puzzle http://fold.it/portal/node/2001404. However, he is the unique player of his team on this puzzle. I suppose it's when taking a guide from himself that he became evolver on one of his own solution. I wonder if this is also possible for a soloist not in group.

It's not very important, but the idea of evolving someone else's solution isn't present here any more. When I am top in a soloist score, it's possible to be low on evolver score because I had no time to further evolve an revolver's solution. This is the game. It would be different if I could evolve myself: the revolver's competition changed rules here doesn't it?

gmn Lv 1

Bruno–at AD, we share back any shared solo so that person (or anyone else) can work on evolving it–whether highest team solo or not. Sometimes team members wants to see what others can do to move it along and get some pointers.

Bruno Kestemont Lv 1

Another tip for "evolving" your own solution:
Take your solution to be evolved, open any other player's solution as "guide".
That's it, you are now in the evolvers race: just evolve it and you get the credits as evolver in case your fellows forgot to share back (=> this saves time for everybody with bad internet connection).