Global soloist scores calculated incorrectly.

Started by BootsMcGraw

jflat06 Staff Lv 1

Also note that the issue of the beginner puzzles (<15) and (<150) that was brought up in the same thread is also resolved by this system, since they are on a separate leaderboard, and don't count towards overall score.

Player feedback on these values is one of the reasons I had the developer chat (http://fold.it/portal/node/992887). I did not hear strong opposition to the current values during the chat. Was the chat too soon for people to evaluate the new system? I wanted to preempt concerns such as this by having a chat to address problems quickly.

B_2 Lv 1

If you didn't have the chats in the middle of the US workday, you might get more participation. So far, I have never been able to join a dev or science chat.

jflat06 Staff Lv 1

Unfortunately, we work during US workdays, so this is when we're available. We apologize for the inconvenience.

auntdeen Lv 1

Can I suggest a few things here?

In terms of another chat - yes, very desirable. And although we know that you prefer to have them during US working hours, we also know that you are working late some evenings :-)

Perhaps you could work a deal with whomever to go into work late some day soon, and do the chat at around 7 pm your time, which would give those on the US west coast a chance to participate after they've come home from work.

From what I've heard, many folders think that much of what you are doing is either enhancing the rankings or neutral (other than the overall window). It's nice to know how a player ranks in certain categories. Removing beginner puzzles from the overall rankings is a strongly positive step.

The only point of contention here would seem to be the severe shortening of the overall ranking window. I suspect that if you started with a 50 puzzle window (in one of the other feedbacks infjamc had counted 53 puzzles in the previous 4 month window), that would likely satisfy most people, coupled with having dropped the <15 and <150 puzzles from inclusion in that scoring/ranking.

If you start inundating us with puzzles, the time period for 50 puzzles will shrink - at that point have another community discussion - it may be desirable, or may need to be tweaked.

If you have reason to have CASP or design or whatever puzzle category to have a shorter window, then simply state it and leave those the way you need them. There is no reason to tie everything together with the same window (in fact if you are not using the <15 & <150 puzzles, then you are already not tying it all together). If the rankings are kept up to date and specified clearly what the windows are, then it's all good.

One last suggestion… many people have commented on how it's really good to have the forever totals for soloists available to see, as you currently have listed in "Top Soloists for Recent Puzzles". Please find a way to keep that list available.

spmm Lv 1

just a comment on the 'top soloist for recent puzzles' - this is a cumulative score and does not really tell you anything much apart from the fact that the longer you play the more points you will collect, that is fine, anyone who has played consistently for years will be nearer the top.

Madde's list of Master Soloist is a much better indicator of quality as you have to have folded in the top ten, not just been around for a long time. http://de.foldit.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Soloist

auntdeen Lv 1

Then that would be great to include here on the website as well.

Folders who have been here for years, as well as those who have excelled at some point in their folding career should be recognized in some way, as in having these lists easily available on the main website.

LociOiling Lv 1

Yes, the category scores are incorrect since we moved to the new server.

The Overall category page is extremely slow to load, as are the other category pages. The Overall page doesn't list any soloists or evolvers. The list of open puzzles is wildly inaccurate, showing puzzle 665 as open. The closed puzzle list is empty.

I can't do any further research right now, none of the category links seem to be responding.

LociOiling Lv 1

The Symmetry category started responding again. It shows the top soloists and evolvers with 200 points each.

The top 25 soloists all have 200 points, but have different ranks despite that.

The top 14 evolvers have 200 points, and are shown tied at #1 rank.

Not sure what's going on, but I believe the colloquial phrase that includes "beyond all recognition" would describe the situation.